inner circle of advisers to make that decision. >> have you spoken to him personally? do you have a better sense? i understand you would like to see him, certainly all the members of the draft pac want to see limb run. do you know if he's any closer to making a decision? >> i haven't spoken to him, and i think the time line is -- >> obviously one of the big stories was the report that maureen dowd reported about his late son beau and we mentioned that earlier there, that he really encouraged his father to run. there's nobody else that perhaps knew beau better than you did, at least from a political advisory point of view, can you set the record straight on that, did beau biden want to see his father run for the presidency? >> there's no doubt in my mind beau thought his dad would have been an incredible president. we talked a lot about 2016 when we were together, he talked a lot about, who would we bring into the fold, hire for pulses