>> you have biden and warren waiting in the wings to rescue things. >> you still think it's a biden/warren ticket? >> because there is -- a recent poll of voters asking what's the first thing that comes to mind? as you know, when you think of hillary clinton. dishonest. >> yes. >> untrustworthy, liar. there is this -- you see it on the republican side, too. in a sense it's almost -- there is a certain carryover effect from hillary clinton's bad image toward the republicans' so-called professional politicians as well. which is why you see donald trump, ben carson and carly fiorina gaining such popularity. she represents this cynical, manipulative, power-grabbing -- >> that's a very intense, negative, cynical view of secretary clinton. >> the e-mail controversy supports that. >> okay. but these numbers, do they encourage or discourage vice