care. hasn't had to veto a defunding of planned parenthood. the arguments are right on that, aren't they? >> i think they are right on that. and the reality is, governing is really hard if you don't have 60 senators. and you don't have, you know, control of the whole apparatus. and republicans don't. and so -- >> some people think that was the whole point of createding the senate and the house was to make it house. >> it was the point. the founders were wise. but there is frustration nothing is getting done. on this matter of planned parenthood and funding. sometimes our leadership sounds defeatist. i don't know why you would assume in a giant game of chicken that the republicans always have to loods. i'm not sure that putting planned parenthood videos on a loop on the news isn't going to end well? it's going to be bad for democrats and really bad for hillary clinton. >> watching all this, i get the idea that oh, the right feels as