that has generated a lot of talk and people are wondering who arranged for kim davis to come in. >> the vatican is such a mysterious and opaque place. we know tonally this pope has been a bit to the left of where a lot of other people in the church hierarchy are. is it plausible that there are other leaders in the church, leaders in rome who would have snuck her in so they can score pr points? >> it is obviously plausible that people wanted the pope to meet with kim davis and whether or not this was all that sneaky or not the big question. we know that the papal here, the vaticans representative here in washington, archbishop carlo would have had to have approved this and to have been a part of kim davis being included among other visitors who the pope did see briefly here in washington.