of people in the field, that's what the safari club does. it brings all those people together, gives them goals, gives them commonality. gives them something to work towards. this is the largest, certainly american hunting organization. some people even refer to it as the larnlest global hunting organization. literally the ages of hunting is on display. then you have access to the hunters. they can tell their stories. >> i think south africa is probably one of the only places in the world where we breed lions commercially. and we breed them for hunting. and there's a lot of controversy about this issue. people that are nonhunters believe that hunters like us, hunting these lions drive them