million dollars spent by the club for growth against donald trump so that might also be explaining the poll numbers, thomas. >> steve, thanks very much. joining me now from washington is deanna bass, press secretary for ben carson's presidential campaign. deanna, good to have you with me. let's talk about the poll numbers, reaction of that with dr. carson ahead in iowa. do you think this is a red meat to iowa evangelicals from trump bringing up the religious background and get them to turn on your candidate? >> you know, first of all, thank you so much for the invitation, thomas. really appreciate it. and we are obviously very excited about the number that is are coming out of iowa but dr. carson as you know is not going to engage in mudslinging or responding to donald trump. he is very clear about that and the people of iowa clearly like what they're seeing, they like that dr. carson doesn't talk about other candidates. he talks about his personal life and his own issues and that's