even on the right side of the screen that's an evacuation that happened within the last hour or so. >> right. >> but so,jim, knbc has been asked as thomas mentioned a few minutes ago not to show live aerial pictures of this area and that's very much on purpose, right? >> no, exactly. because, you know, if a person's in a building or even in this age of a smartphone, that can get a live feed, you don't want to see the movements of s.w.a.t. operators coming in and where they are, where the location of long rifle teams or sniper teams would be so that's very smart move by nbc and l.a. not to show that. you can show it when it's over but unfolding for the safety of the officers, you don't want to show it. it's critical that they locate him and here's the other thing. it's not necessarily so that he's still there. these guys can escape, as well. and before you can get a firm perimeter set on a mass shooting like this with 20 people,