>> that use of that metaphor, that it was striking to me that ted cruz and chris christie both invoked war in the wake of this. obviously there's an active war the u.s. is waging in iraq and now parts of syria, both with air strikes and ground forces. they're not called boots on the ground, but they essentially are. but it's also -- it's so striking the difference as soon as everyone learns who did it and starts to speculate why they did, something goes from something you can kind of brush off like the horrible shooting in oregon community college to an example of essentially a civilizational struggle. >> yeah. i think there's more than a bit of threat inflation in this. i mean, i spent a weekend in iowa following marco rubio around for a piece that's coming up in "esquire" and he was very much into this is a civilizational struggle and if we don't win then they win. now, what you're dealing with still is a rump faction of
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