but we need tough people. we need toughness. we need intelligence, and we need tough. jeb said when they come across the southern border they come as an act of love. >> you said in september 30th that isis was not a -- >> am i talking or are you talking jeb? >> i'm talking right now. >> you interrupted me. >> september 30th you said -- >> have you apologized yet? no. am i allowed to finish? >> one at a time. >> go ahead, mr. trump. >> so -- >> a little of your own medicine there -- >> i know you're trying to build up your energy, jeb, but it's not working. >> look the simple fact is if you think this is tough and you're not being treated fairly -- >> this isn't tough. i wish it was always this easy. >> -- president xi or dealing with the islamic terrorism that exists. this is a tough business to run for president. >> oh, you're a tough guy, jeb. >> and we need to have a leader that is -- >> real tough. >> you're never going to be president of the united states by insulting your way to the presidency. >> let's see i'm at 40 -- >> all right. from washington now i'm joined by jonathan allen, journalist and co-author of hrc. good morning you to, jonathan. >> good morning, shannon. you were talking about those
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