adviser. a critic might say this isn't the platinum list of supporters a mitt romney had. why? >> i want to give you the copper list. i'm going to tell you a couple personal stories about some of the people on there, give you insight as to why business people are supporting trump. copper. brian o'shaughnessy, he's the ceo of revere copper, which was actually founded by paul revere back in the day. and he -- i got to know him. he was interviewed for the film i did "death by china" which is about how china has basically used their illegal export subsidies, currency manipulat n manipulation, other practs to hammer the heartland of this country, steal our jobs, shut our factories down, and o'shaughnessy is one of the most elegant people i know discussing the china threat. so he is a natural fit. another one is bill hickey. >> i want to ask about one that sticks out to me. hold on, you got one. i want to ask about one.