believe in the invisible hand, we believe in the strong hands of donald trump to reach in and move things around so that outcomes the market produces are favorable to the american worker? >> so i don't think that's what donald trump stands for. and so i don't think that's also why he won. i think that if we want to go back to the primary and why he won, i think that your argument is probably dilt to bear out data wise that he won because of an ideological difference versus all the campaign and dichbs that we both know and can point to. >> you know exactly why hillary clinton lost the midwest. >> because people voted for barack obama twice chose to vote for donald trump? >> it turns out when there's 80,000 votes across four states there's lots of reasons why someone may have lost. thank you for your time tonight. a member of the electoral college just announced he won't file his vote for donald trump. there's a move to get others to follow suit. christopher suprin made his case