would have said, yeah, probably so. they vetted him. two or three days later there was just too much. they couldn't go with him. the same thing with mitt romney. the morning after the dinner. classified as a grand slam. but somebody and all i'll say is somebody in the bush administration of all administrations, said you need to check out this tillerson guy. >> the backlash to romney also surprised trump i'm told. on the right when it became more than just the typical reactionary talk radio types who said maybe you should pick somebody who didn't go after you so aggressively. >> it was literally everybody around him. everybody around him. >> it's a process. before we go to break on a completely different note, you know the conversation we had last week about life expectancy diminishing and our kids not doing as well and the health of our country. so pepsi is struggling right now dealing with trying to go