has been famous for doing is making deals. they have refineries and upstream production. he is a company man that began with exxon in 1975, i believe it was. he already is going to have that experience of making deals. the question for me is can you separate that from potential conflicts of interest. almost anywhere he goes in the world, there will be something to do with exxon-mobil in and or near that country or region. >> cnbc's steve leesman. appreciate it. for more, i want to bring in sabrina from the guardian and philipp from "the washington post." let's start on the question of tillerson. if this is the pick, you see marco rubio's comments and you know when it am cacomes to russ. is there a worry for the trump team if they go with tiller? >> there is. the main reason people might be worried is the comment from rubio.