be screaming bloody murder that the president of the united states in a rank partisan move had messed with the election by announcing this before the election, in fact, fellow republicans saying this overdue probably been saying the same thing. isn't that true? >> listen, also when you say fellow republicans, let's be honest about who's saying that, primarily john mccain and lindsey graham who have never been friends of the donald trump camp -- >> paul ryan, too. >> let's be clear -- >> answer that question. if the timing here is political, the only other option would have been do it before the election, which would have been seen as more political, don't you agree? >> you know, i don't. i think -- >> you don't? you don't think that the president, the sitting president announced sanctions on russia, and said definitively the intelligence community all agreed they were trying to get donald trump elected, that would not be a more political move? >> hold on. guessing motive is not what our intelligence agencies do. they can say -- yes, perhaps they can say that the dnc was hacked. first of all, podesta was not hacked. he gave into a phishing scheme,