it. and so he denies it, says we should move on. and ultimately he says because there's no other way i've got information that you don't have. but i'm not going to tell you for a few days. so what happens? then we in the media talk about it for a few days, repeating his claim to know things that no one else does, half of america believes it. half of us don't. but to his audience, they believe it. and we've carried that message in the media. so he has won, a on playing us by doing this. we have to call him out when he knows what other people don't know allegedly, we have to ask where did that information come from. >> you said half of america, we have to fact check that, i believe 46%. evan mcmullin, thank you for joining us. up next former u.s. ambassador to russia. first, mr. ambassador, your response to what i was just discussing with evan and your view of where intelligence and