violence that characterized the 9/11 tragedy. and here all we are doing through these kinds of activities are to fire up and enflame further other elements. >> rachel, there are two big presidential firing stories that struck me tonight. one, the nixon, which has the closest parallels to the elements of this story. politically, there's another one, and that is reagan firing the air traffic controllers. >> yeah. >> which many -- everyone who wasn't a reagan supporter thought was a crazy thing to do. you have just endangered the flying public, who's doing to like this, this is -- and it turned out reagan supporters loved it because it was the strongman being strong. that was the only thing that mattered to them.