but, this is a checklist item for the religious right. part of the bargain that donald trump made in securing the nomination was going to the conservative right and saying what do you need from me? part of what he needed to give them, a conservative supreme court justice is the johnson amendment. this is a big ask and favor he did for them yesterday. >> john, it's -- i don't think it will pass the senate at all. >> there's a number of other reasons it will never pass because of the u.s. constitution, the separation of church and state. >> what's that? >> u.s. constitution. >> which amendment? >> the one that separates church and state. here is the thing, though. i continue to listen to jeremy talk about it, it is true. i find it after now, a year and a half, i find it astonishing when you hear the words donlds trump's base and religious right. it's one of the most