>> yeah, so i want to talk about it, i think it's worth getting to it for a moment. right, there's something called minimumization exist because you want to protect the privacy of american persons when you are surveilling foreign entities. with that foreign entity has conversation it's minimized or masked. senior intelligence officials, including the national security adviser, who is the american on the other side of that conversation, if it is the case that susan rice did that in these context, that -- is that okay, is that not okay. what do you make of that. >> so this would be sort of within the ordinary activity of a national security adviser. i typically would occur as a generic identifier. u.s. person number one. in some cases it will even be title, especially in the case of a government official. so sometimes that information will be disseminated with that generic identifier. the senior officials will say, hey, in order to understand the