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in less direct spending to medicare. 14 million fewer enroh llles. these are the poor and indigent. joining me now is austin, a professor at the university of chicago and the former chairman of the council of economic advisers in president obama's administration. >> thanks for having me. >> people right now who have insurance would lose it. the justification i've been hearing is that because they're not forced to buy insurance by obamacare, people will have the freedom to not buy something ey don't want tobuy. what do you make of that? >> first of all, i think the summary statement of this cbo score is, this thing was a blood bash for that bill. you can see perfectly well why they wanted to pass the bill before they saw this score. i do not think that anyone would have knowingly voted for that bill, or at least a lot of

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