that somebody doing that would be kind of a big deal. they recognized it enough that they took great pains to deny the heck out of this for weeks now. >> the subject matter of sanctions or the actions taken by the obama administration did not come up in the conversation. >> they exchanged logistical information on how to initiate and schedule that call. that was it, plain and simple. >> they did not discuss anything having to do with the united states decision to expel diplomats or impose a censure. >> either they all bluntly lied about mike flynn and what he was doing about russia or they lied unknowingly because they were saying something that they thought was through. because mike flynn told them a lie and they passed it on thinking it was troupe. either way that can't stand. that seems like a big deal for the top people in a brand-new administration. that was february 10th of this