american public does have issues with russia. i suppose some of the partisan lines of this are changing if putin is a stand-in for the republican party, but that shift hasn't completely occurred. and this would be odd ball in the extreme to suggest it's a win for a u.s. president to back off an adversary. >> and let's be clear about when secretary tillerson is saying the two leaders said, we should just move on and forget about the history, forget about the agenda, what is that agenda? that agenda is created by vladimir putin. he's the one that intervened in our elections. we didn't do that. he did that to us. he's the one that annexed territory in ukraine. he created that as an agenda item. we didn't do that. he's the one that doubled down and tripled down in his support for assad in syria. half a million people have died there. that agenda is created by him. so surprise, surprise, he wants to move on. that is not smart diplomacy. diplomacy is not a popularity contest. >> right. >> diplomacy is about defending