strange. his seeming coziness to the russian bear was a great concern. now we're getting more and more details. there are a lot of threads here. this thing is coming unraveling very fast. >> talk to me about the danger of putin suggesting and trump even considering, let alone mentioning in public, this joint cybersecurity task force. you're on armed services. it always struck me that if it had been ken itic warfare if someone fired so much as one shot by way of the cyberwarfare that had been warfare that had been committed we would maybe treat it with more urgency and be better as our defenses counteringing that. >> what do you playbook of it. >> what i make of it is an president that doesn't understand cybersecurity and cyberissues and seems to be in denial that russia actually hacked, broke the law in the united states, used that