right? i got the left colluding -- >> to well nothing came of the meeting. >> nothing happened from the meeting, zero happened from the meeting and honestly i think the press made a very big deal over something that really a lot of people would do. >> to even well what's wrong with a little help from russia? >> hostile foreign power, do we say you can take information from non-hostile? >> joining me paul butler professor of georgetown law school and sima aier, former civil rights attorney. our previous guest his argument was if the person presenting you with foreign help for your campaign is ridiculous, if there are ridiculous pictures of them, if they are ridiculous it is somehow okay to take information from them even if they're presenting it. i do not understand what his argument was. do you think we have any legal issues in hand?