of special trump's speech writers. i need to set the record straight. >> did i say that? >> i think you did. don't worry, he's on everybody's mind right now. i don't think he would have asked me to serve as one of his speech writers. >> clarifying for sure on that one. my apologizes. there's a lot of stuff going on with this military stuff. for that there's going to be a shorter segment than i had anticipated. but you write about the positively lincolnesque, president obama wasn't the only thing unshackled. so was the way he gets his messages crossed. you say that part of this starts with that hilarious between two ferns appearance. then a year later with the white house correspondents dinner. you took a massive role in orchestrating all that. how did that all come about? >> well, what i make clear in my book is that actually i thought between two ferns was not going to be a good idea.