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relevant authority. on the lautenberg side of this, the idea he was convicted of a crime of domestic violence is something that should be transmitted to something called the texas crime information center as well as the national crime information center. that would be the right way to do it. they still can't tell us at the air force whether or not these transfers were made and what administrative changes potentially they consider to make sure they make this smoothly. >> all right. hans, thanks very much. hans nichols at the pentagon for us. for more on all of this i'm joined by david chipman, former special agent at the atf and former policy adviser for americans for responsible solutions as well as cliff van sent, former fbi profiler and msnbc contributor and author of "facing down evil" thanks to you both. david, start with you. based on what you just heard from hans, we're just trying to figure out that given the court-martial he faced for the very serious things that he was

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