scheduled interview with robert mueller's investigators. we're told the hope hicks interview may happen as soon as this week. crucial question, it's not clear whether hicks will be called to testify to the grand jury. in addition to speaking with muller's prosecutors in an interview setting. so we don't know when the hope hicks interview and/or testimony will be but we expect it should be any day now if it hasn't happened already. so like i said, busy day. [ laughter ] >> all of that is going on in the news now. that's the kind of news cycle we're in now and on top of that, charles manson died. news at which the world does not weep. in august 1970, charles manson was on trial with two accomplices for multiple murders when the man who was president at the time threw that charles manson trial into chaos. the president totally messed it