without acting out that the calls that he was making to congress to shut down the investigation are gaining traction. you could see that in the hearing where the republicans were trying to shut down mueller. we see that now in a very worrying way in our investigation. and i think the strategy is they can't shut down mueller before they shut us down. otherwise, how do they explain why congress is continuous investigation if they think mueller should be finished. >> that moment right there happened on tonight's broadcast of hardball with chris matthews. democrats in congress are sounding the alarm because they fear some republicans are trying to discredit robert mueller and shut down the various russia investigations. in the latest move, the wall street journal is reporting, and we'll have a word on this in a moment, interviews of two of president trump's oldest and closest associates have been relocated to new york. they will be conducted in the field and away from the usual infrastructure of congressional committees. felix saider is a republican-born trump business associate, rona graph was trump's personal assistant for almost 30 years.