senator he's more definitive that the president did not say that word and what i find interesting is the fact that we're focusing in on a word whether the president referred to the african countries as an s-hole or not, when he would rather have people come from norway rather than africa regardless of what he refers to africa has that makes it a racist statement. what do you believe? >> i think a lot of these things happening right now with the varying acts of what was said in the room come from the white house and its allies trying to have it both ways. they want to send off this dog whistle to parts of their base to tell them that they don't really want anyone coming here who isn't blonde hair blue eyed but on the other hand they got over their skis, they recommend the diplomatic impact is pretty widespread right now and the difficulty they're having is trying to have it both ways. they're trying to have both