they're very wily. they are strategic. i think kim jong-un is evolving from a bomb throwing into a strategic thinker with an endgame. i mean, the olympics, what he did there. the invitation to the south korean president. the invitation to president trump. he's up to something. so we can't be trapped. those are the risks. the rewards, look, there's enormous tension in the koreas right now. vitally strategic part for the united states. enormous problems there. u.s./north korean relations couldn't be worse at this time. but now with this potential breakthrough, although potentially dangerous, tensions will ease. south koreans, japanese scitizes will breathe a little more easier because at least nothing's going to happen, no missile test, nuclear test until