believe this is a political move then by the prum administration? this puerirely politics? >> i don't do motivation. i'll tell you it will move seats from blue states to red states. and there are estimates out there saying california could lose as many as four seats in congress in electoral votes therefore. seats that might come out ahead in ohio and virginia. we'll have to see how this plays out. i think there's no doubt of what it will have consequences for the corporation rate with the census. >> i want to bring in betsy and alexey here. we know the state of california is suing the white house. including a citizenship questions on a 2020 census is not just a bad idea it is illegal. going on to say congress