scenario for donald trump because his defense lawyers in this case are his employees over there de-justice departme there at the justice department. these are lower level people serving under the attorney general in the justice department. they will be part of this discovery process. they will be viewing the president's tax returns if those become documents in the case through discovery subpoenas and so forth. so it isn't just the lawyers on the other side. before those documents get to the lawyers on the other side, they will be in the hands of people who donald trump does not want to see his tax returns. >> as you know, the irs has trump's tax returns and they have successfully taken a lot of measures to make sure they don't get out. tax returns are not supposed to be revealed of a private citizen. donald trump has been careful in making sure this information does not get out. the more cases like this -- we'll see how this case goes, it