employs tons of people and it's all based on complete falsehoods. >> and elise jordan in washington. we have eugene robinson and associate editor for the washington post as well. >> this amazon story again, i can't say it too much. the president goes into the white house yesterday and he's talking to reporters and everything he's saying is not wrong. it's a flatout lie. >> look, it's extraordinary and there are a couple of other points, but i think you guys covered it pretty well. first oaf all, if amazon were not paying enough to the post office the post office can raise their rates. amazon doesn't decide what it pays to the post office. the post office decides what to charge amazon. amazon is actually helping the post office because the post office is declining in first class mail. so their package business is their big business and one last