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so in an ordinary criminal case, i would have been in orbit if that had happened. but in this particular case, i came at the end of literally four investigations, which was why i'm so clear that mueller was not involved in the case involving the four men wrongfully accused because his name was literally in not a single report. so everything had already been leaked and was out virtually by the time i got the case. it wasn't an issue. but i mean i take chuck's point that you don't -- you know, you don't leak in the middle of an investigation, and you certainly don't leak in the middle of an investigation as fraught as this one is. >> i want to clarify just the case you're talking about, which you wrote the op-ed about. tell me about that case and why you wrote the op-ed defending mueller. >> well, there had been statements made by alan dershowitz, by hannity, by limbaugh that were that somehow bob mueller was responsible for keeping -- was responsible, that

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