the policies saying this is not our policy. so the white house is trying to kind of have it multiple ways here in terms of saying, look, we are the toughest administration on immigration if you cross the border we're going to prosecute you. as soon as the argument comes back saying, well that results -- that policy that you put forth results in children being separated from their families, they say, well, this is the democrats fault, right? so there's also this issue of lawmakers on capitol hill don't know exactly what the administration wants because of these confing messages. so that will matter -- >> well, they want a wall, right? that's what this administration wants. that's what this president wants. >> he has been tweeting as much which shows the political nature of how he's thinking about this. but republicans even on capitol hill are saying, look, we don't even know what the policy is and what they're trying to do about it. so still questions among republicans. >> let'salk about what's happening on capitol hill, because it's not just this issue. as usual it's it's an avalanche