can't speak yet, who doesn't know what's happening to her, it doesn't matter that she is being fed and clothed and given toys. she needs her mother. every adult who is in the room with that child can tell you how devastated they felt because they couldn't give her what she needed. she needed her mother. she needed her parent. that is really the key to helping her buffer some of these very traumatic experiences. everything from fleeing their homeland to crossing the border. when we take their parents away, we are not treating these children well. >> you talk about some of the kids you've seen. you talked about that little girl who was 2 or 4 years old. flash forward to when she's 12 or 14. what are the long-term impacts of what happened -- what's happening right now for these kids? >> the long-term impacts of this type of trauma can affect their