in this together, and somehow it's just divided. and like you say at that dirt track, people would be yelling and screaming at one another there. that's not how -- we've got to get back on track. do i think we can? i do, but i have to tell you i think faith is a big quotient in this. the fact that the lord has placed -- and, look, if you don't happen to believe in that, if you're a humanist, that's great. you want to make the country better. but for those of faith, i think the lord has written the roadmap on our hearts about the way we're supposed to treat one another. and that's why when i look down at the border, and i feel as though that in some people's eyes, these people are objects. they're not people. well, they are people.