he talked about how it was nasty and they had to fix it. and in that setting he definitely didn't project the image of someone who thought that this particular issue was a political winner, which had been what you could have gleaned if you had been reading his twitter feed. >> that's pretty interesting point you brought up about ivanka. i want to ask you about that, i know that axios is reporting that the president's daughter ivanka has in fact been very vocal about the families as you mentioned, he brought it up in his meeting with republicans yesterday. is her voice actually going to make a difference? is she someone that he is going to listen to, and actually take into consideration as he makes his next steps? to be clear, when this stuff comes out, people say it's ivanka, log rolling, trying to look like a liberal hero. i've neither spoken to ivanka or anyone close to her. the first we learned was from sources in the room last night. it doesn't surprise me she does do this on just about every