he doesn't consider the fact that, oh, there are other people watching. you watch some other attorneys when they come on air. michael avenatti i cited in my column. he stays relent lessly on message. he has bullet points. every answer is scripted. it looks like rudy, by his body language is considering the answers for the first time when they're asked to him. >> isn't it true that the rules don't apply to rudy giuliani. he's more of a publicist. going out. blowing fog into the conversation so people can't find where the truth is. >> i think you're totally on to something. from the beginning, the notion that rudy is going to a warehouse and going through banker's boxes of documents, no. others may be doing it. but not rudy. he says things at the are later inconsistent. if he was familiar with the discovery, i don't think that