november where trump will be in the state, doing these big rallies for blackburn, trying to keep that base moving. congresswoman blackburn is a figure on fox news. she's someone that campaigned for the president. he knows her. so you really do have a great microcosm, as you say, of what will be shaping the make upof the congress. >> all right. jonathan swan, thank you very much for your reporting, and coming up, ivanka trump says it was a low point for her, the separations of families from their children, and she also talked about whether or not the media is the enemy of the people. but the press secretary, given multiple chances, refused echo the sentiment on the media that ivanka put out. we'll talk about that ahead on "morning joe."