so much that goes on in this administration. it sort of depends on who you talk to where the truth lies. but i think the point ashley made is good one. and the story she and her colleagues wrote about the misleading statement, that story really has legs because that issue of president trump's involvement in the misleading statement is among the topics bob mueller want to talk to the president about. and that is kind of at the heart of this question is bob mueller going subpoena the president. is he going to take no for an answer, or is he going to take, well, we'll talk about this but not that for an answer? >> of the foundation of the mueller case, the founding documents, the founding questions, do you think trump tower meeting is easily top five? >> yeah, i think you can look at the questions mueller has said he wants answered from the president and this question of what did you know about this