to figure out that paul manafort wasn't being forth coming. in some cases they couldn't figure it out because paul manafort had people lying for him and that was one person, cindy laporta. she has immunity. it was one of the dryer days being in the court because the prosecution really did go over a lot of the same evidence they have done before particularly on this howard street residence in new york. you could see the jury yawning and stretching in their chairs >> the psychology of a district trial judge in a case that you know was a huge deal. the nation is watching this and also from an appeals perspective, you know there is going to be appeals. how does that affect how you run a courtroom when you are dealing with high stakes, high profile trial. >> it is hard to say in general,