destroy the credibility of the fbi attacks land at the fbi? some of these people were, are highly regarded figures who had the bureau's interest in mind and they are now political chum in the water for rudy and the president. >> look at the damage they've done. the director, the deputy director, the general counsel and the top counter intelligence agent. so, in that sense they've cleared out the folks the closest to this investigation. i think the fbi is as good enough of an organization that whoever replaced those folks are probably as capable. but what a deterrent and what a success it has been to hollow out the agency in the way that they have. >> but is there any fear -- all those people did that we just named, they've scrutinized the fisa application. they've scrutinized the dossier application. the surveillance was fruitful enough to continue to reauthorize it. is there any change how they go about doing their jobs because of these attacks? >> i don't think so. they're probably a little more