interpreted as lying to the federal government. >> the department of justice regularly includes when it prosecutes people when violating campaign disclose. >> where do you see the tentacles of this case going next? >> i think it goes down to d.c. and mr. mueller's report. what led up to today is he was not prepared to take a plea. and then the federal government said we are moving forward. we are going to charge him this week. and some of these counts carried 30 years plus. and then you start to add that up and you are talking decades of potential prison time and that brought him and his lawyers to the table this weekend saying okay, we want to take a plea. he want to take a deal. and again, it doesn't spell out cooperation here. if you read between the lines