significant with just those convictions. and the judge is permitted to impose a sentence that includes what's known as relevant conduct under the sentencing guidelines. so if he finds by a preponderance of the evidence, a much lower standard than the jury had to find, that manafort committed those additional crimes, then he is allowed to consider them in imposing sentence. sow i don't know that they have much to gain by retrying the case. so if it were me, i would not. they may have other reasons they want to go forward. >> and briefly, barb, do you think that the special counsel's office will go back to manafort's team now and talk to them again about whether he might want to flip and become a cooperating witness? rather than face the second trial in d.c. and hopefully not have to face all those years in prison he's looking at after all those convictions today. >> i do. in fact, if i were manafort's lawyer i would be advising manafort, this is your moment. i know you wanted to wait as long as possible, but this is it. this is your time. if you ever want to cooperate, now is your opportunity. maybe you could work out a deal where the d.c. case gets dismissed, you ask for a reduced