>> in terms of what you just said, i just want to underscore what you just referenced, that mr. cohen has information about the president and his advance knowledge of the crime of hacking during the campaign. and you're saying that mr. cohen, whether or not he has spoken to the special counsel's office, he would be happy to discuss that with the special counsel, separate and apart from everything that happened today in the southern district of new york? >> i hate to be overly legalistic with you, but i'm not going to confirm what knowledge michael has. i will confirm that mr. mueller, who i greatly respect, will have a lot of interest in what michael has to say. and by the way, on just the crime of directing somebody to commit a crime, as you pointed out in your opening, it was a crime for president trump to direct michael cohen to the crime of a campaign finance donation that exceeded the legal limitations. there is something else interesting that isn't so