to be able to write and they can't hate you. so think about all the people who fought val yaniantly and no saw it, there was nobody to witness it or the paperwork got lost accidentally or on purpose and you realize that all the recipients recognize the fact that they represent all those who can't wear it. >> so for each one of these 3,000 plus people, there are so many more who did these things, who die in silence sometimes, who fight in silence. so it is important, and this is sort of what i was sharing with my viewers, it's important that we pause and we listen to these stories very fully. this man, john chapman, he is -- he was a combat controller. he served with the 24th special tactics squadron, pope air force at the time of his death. the stories have a similarity to them. there's a selflessness and a fearlessness in the face of the ultimate danger that often would result in death. >> well, if you're in a very