at the various statements that the president or his associates have made on his behalf regarding these payments, and it is clear from the very beginning that he knew about the payments, he was involved in discussions about the payments, and yet, you know, told the american people repeatedly he didn't know about it. so, it left us no choice but to actually use that word "lie." >> how about the dysfunctional brain defense. he's just a flighty guy. if you're going into intent and use that "l" word which should be used thousands of times, how about, to use mika's analogy this flipping fish on the dock and his reality on any given moment for him is not a lie. >> well, that's a very good point. i think the president is very situational. he may well believe what he says at the moment when he is saying
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