there is something going on in the distinct american right. how do you communicate that to people who exist on the american right? >> william f. buckley's great contribution to america and american conservatism was to kick the crazies out of the conservative movement. probably a longer discussion than we have time for tonight, but unfortunately, looking back, that the word liberal became an epithet. small l liberalism, conservatism is a root branch of it and the democratic parties and the republican parties, both liberal parties, compete in the arena of ideas -- >> a democratic society -- >> to move the country forward. what we are seeing is the co-option of the conservative republican party in a personality which is fundamentally unconservative led by donald trump, that is authoritarian in nature, that is antithetical to the orthodox is