covering this story now a couple of days in a couple of forums. and that is why do you think that the trump folks wouldn't take this moment to say you know what, we made some bad calls about business, but this is all about business. there's no election collusion, there's no hacking conspiracy. what i'm saying is a good criminal defense attorney for this president and some of the people around him could seize this moment and say this is the thing, it's a business thing, but this is what was on his mind when he said all those weird russia things, not some larger criminal conspiracy to defraud the united states. why do you think they haven't done that? >> because i think it's being directed from the top down. and this is the way donald trump has always done business. i believe that what we have here is a very broad-based criminal conspiracy. but it's a conspiracy to them that they don't believe since they now run all the wheels of government. they don't believe that any of this is of a matter, if it has