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we went through this. there is nothing there. so it did influence our policy. you could -- at the very least, it's a waste of time on the part of fbi and doj investigators who take these jobs very seriously, but at worst, it shows that there was a foreign government influencing our policy here. >> so if mike flynn, according to prosecutors, he and his firm were being -- had a $600,000 contract with the government of turkey. one of the expected deliverables of that contract according to prosecutors today was that they were expected to produce a criminal referral related to gulen. if flynn was being paid to do that and he tried to do that, how is it that flynn is not being charged here? >> that's a good question. i mean, you look at all of this. it's not that flynn was duped, right? he is supposed to be top intelligence official, one of the great intelligence national security minds who can say he was chosen to do that, chosen by this job for the trump administration. he wasn't duped by these people.

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